You were a longtime leader of the Norwegian Labor Party and also of the Socialist International, which is what, exactly?
It is the gathering of all the Social Democratic parties in the world, and I was vice president when Willy Brandt was president.
Here in the United States, “socialism” is one of those words bandied about by Obama’s critics. When people hear “socialist,” they worry you’re going to take away their cars and make them ride bicycles.
Look at the welfare state in Norway that the Labor Party Social Democrats built. Everyone has better cars than most of the Americans.
What do you drive?
I’m driving a Volvo."