Arab governments and their opponents: Takfir and Counter-Takfir. AlArabiya TV (which has become more blatant in its services for US propaganda as of late than Fox News) had a panel on militant takfiri groups. They invited "experts" on Islam: one former buffoonish cleric from the book burning center At Al-Azhar and a former director of Jordanian mukhabarat--I kid you not. So she asked the Azhar (Mubarak) stooge about those groups: he said that those who support militant groups should be declared "outsiders to Islam" (basically, declared infidels), and that they can then be "killed, crucified, and their hands cut off" and he was elaborating on what else of their bodies can be cut off, before he was interrupted with another question.